Issue #4 Page 19

Issue #4 Page 19

Wednesday, the 21st of December, 2011

Merry Christmas everyone! And so it begins again... yep, the infamous transformations scenes. Don't expect it to be as long as the previous one, after all Luna's body is starting to get used to them. Upcoming pages will go and come between Collie and Luna in opposition to what the first transformation was. Still I expect to make it -artistically- better than last time, I'll try ;)

In other subject, some people wonder about the lack of shading of the pages. Well I haven't been working on it since I got help back when I was in the middle of issue 3. But when I came back this late my friend have been too busy to work in the shades as he used to do.
With time I hope we can catch up, but meanwhile I just post the ink work because that is what really matters. Shades are important for the publishing of the book, but in the mean time I don't consider it a priority, besides I already work a lot in the page as it is just by myself, I hope you understand.

As you know next weekends are Christmas and New year. So these weeks I'll updating 1 page a week.
Next will be on Dec 28.

See ya!

Leo


192 Responses to "Issue #4 Page 19"
GunmastO says:December 21, 2011 at 8:05 pmChristmas es domingo señor.

God Bless
Leo says:December 21, 2011 at 8:16 pm@CunmastO We celebrate Xmas during the eve night.
Crescent says:December 21, 2011 at 8:25 pmYay an update!!!! Luna is just a bit bloody xD cant wait for the nxt page (well i can but u know) great work and Merry Christmas ‹3
David says:December 21, 2011 at 9:17 pmMerry Christmas Leo! And, enjoy the New Year!
Takim says:December 21, 2011 at 9:45 pmHey leo enjoy your christmas and new years have a wonderful time watching south park woodland crittets episode and christmas specil lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllolllllllllllllll it is funny
Barricade64 says:December 21, 2011 at 10:35 pmI wonder if the pain will start to subside with each transformation, or at least that Luna will get used to it. Switching between Collie and Luna pages sounds interesting, though I'm looking forward to seeing Luna get a little furry.

Happy holidays Leo!
Uberman5000 says:December 21, 2011 at 11:42 pmExcellent! Luna's come to a startling realization, who knows what could happen to her now? Looking forward to a terrific transformation! :D
oracle33c says:December 21, 2011 at 11:50 pmLOVE IT!!!!!! just killing me having to wait for more!!!
Finnish girl says:December 22, 2011 at 1:40 amDecember 28? Oh man i'm in Helsinki shopping some manga or with my grandparents. So no internet on that day. Nice, page Leo!
werewolfdude says:December 22, 2011 at 2:35 amNice page and merry christmas and a happy new year.
TSG says:December 22, 2011 at 9:53 amGreat page!

And merry christmas to you all! ;)
\Kishio/ says:December 22, 2011 at 10:04 amLooks like Luna is going lycan again. Oh, man I really wanted to see her in anthro form.

Hey Leo, about those fan arts, how do you receive them? By e-mail or on DeviantArt?

Anyway, this transformation is going to be awesome, once Luna is now awake.

Merry Christmas and happy new year for everybody!!
WarlordMike says:December 22, 2011 at 10:50 amTo this day, I've always felt that the thought of claws ripping(? I don't really know how you'd describe the event) through your fingernails/toenails would be far more painful than anything else.

Mainly because your finger/toenails aren't really supposed to come off.
Firestar96 says:December 22, 2011 at 5:25 pmGreat page.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
TimidTabby says:December 22, 2011 at 7:57 pmMerry X-Mas senor >^_^<
Crescent says:December 23, 2011 at 2:21 amI forgot to mention Leo, congrats on getting over 300 Facebook likes even if it wasnt your goal its still impressive ;)
Takim says:December 23, 2011 at 6:56 amNice page heu leo have you ever watched the anime tengan toppa gurren lagann it is epic the epicness can match dragonballz and the movies are beyond epic there like over 9000000000000000/000000000 epic you should watch it the movies are ownly in japanese they havent come to america yet so you do have to read subtitles but it is still epic you want to know why because it PERCES THE HEVANES
SilverWolfGal says:December 23, 2011 at 10:12 amMerry Christmas and Happy New Year Leo!

(Also, for the other forum members, please tell me I'm not the only person who saw the hack...)
WarlordMike says:December 23, 2011 at 10:14 amNo, you're not the only one, regrettably, SWG... -_-;;;
Rahiros says:December 23, 2011 at 12:51 pmNot the Craw!!!

THE CRAW!!!!
Quint says:December 23, 2011 at 2:05 pmSWG and WarlordMike, you guys ain't the only ones... Don't you love people who have way too much free time and nothing better to do with their lives?
Fylo says:December 23, 2011 at 2:54 pmI saw it too. Depressing.
Daniel says:December 23, 2011 at 9:43 pmYay update,
Merry Christmas to you Leo, happy new year.
Kare says:December 24, 2011 at 6:05 pmMerry Xmas :)
Adolf Mingan says:December 24, 2011 at 10:57 pmHappy Howlidays everyone!!! I love it even more.
Anne says:December 25, 2011 at 12:21 amHey, Merry Christmas Leo. Or Feliz Navidad. Either way, hope you have a happy holiday =)
Sk8terBoy says:December 25, 2011 at 10:35 amLeo-
We have a situation with the forum, it's been hacked, check it out www.alphaluna.net/community
knightwolf says:December 25, 2011 at 10:46 amHey merry christmas to all. Does anyone know whats going on with the forum? I tried going on it a couple times but when ever I got on it it sez that its been hacked by some dude named Dante and gives a picture of Dante from Devil may cry.
fabwolf95 says:December 25, 2011 at 1:01 pmMerry Christmas and Happy New year to all.
Cécile says:December 25, 2011 at 2:43 pmHey! About your site's hack.

One of my friends uses this website a lot and wanted me to take a look at what happened. Obviously, your forum was hacked.

If you take the binary Dante wrote and run it through a translator real quick, you get:

"Hacked by Dante you should get better security, need help? FalloutxZero@Gmail.com"

The trailing text (what follows the cursor), "48 61 63 6b 65 etc" is simply the HEX version of that.

Team PS is Team Power Surge, a hacking and cracking (and defacing) group.(http://www.p0wersurge.com/)

Anyways, if you are the webmaster/admin/whatever I would suggest emailing Dante to get your forum back, if you are unable to do it yourself.

Bye!
Leo says:December 25, 2011 at 7:36 pm@Cécile Are you saying I should ask for help to the same people who hacked the forum? :/
I'm sorry but I can't help myself and despite people who just do this SH*t for fun or just money, they end up hurting a community and no more.

I'll try to fix these thing by myself for now, thanks.
WarlordMike says:December 25, 2011 at 7:59 pmI'll be praying for a swift resolution, Leo - I know this is NOT how you planned to spend your Christmas, and we appreciate all the work you're doing for us.

As for asking help from the very people who hacked your forum - I'm raising an eyebrow at that suggestion myself.
TSG says:December 26, 2011 at 5:08 pmAgreed! This is really stupid! Hacking someone's site/forum just for fun or to say "see, it's not very safe" and after, he act like a savior who can help increase the protection... that's just what a douchebag would do.
Dante says:December 27, 2011 at 12:59 amLulz, I still have access to this entire site, database and all. I suggest emailing me for some security before it gets hacked again.

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TechFallout.com
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p0wersurge.com
Anne says:December 27, 2011 at 1:11 amI only have one question for Dante.

Why would you do this to all the readers? I can't say if Leo has done anything to you, or vb, but I haven't. Doubt most of the readers have either. Did you do it for fun? A sense of superiority? I don't care, but I honestly want to know why you did it. I don't think it's out of spite, and that's the only reason I could come up with..
Dante says:December 27, 2011 at 1:18 amMostly fun. Proof of poor security. I didn't delete anything. I am offering security, this attack could be a lot worse, this entire site could be gone within 10 seconds if I wanted. But I didn't do that. Hopefully if Leo comes to his senses he will get security from me. Then you won't have to worry about this site ever getting hacked again.
Leo says:December 27, 2011 at 3:21 amThis is just a COMIC Web site that I've put myself together with a lot of effort. Every page I put here has 12 hours or more of work that I share for free to make people happy and you come here, piss all over the place and threat me to get help of you?!

I feel terrible because there exist so awful people like you out there that, you know what, win no matter what. You made me feel very sick, you should congratulate yourself about that.
Anne says:December 27, 2011 at 3:50 amThanks for the reply Dante. I guess that makes sense, you know, the proof part. There is obviously a lack of security, and Leo could ask for your help, but I don't blame either of you. Honestly there were much better ways to offer help and prove he needs better security! But, there are worse things you couldve done. So.. I dont know. I don't think this site should've been hacked at all but I am glad it didn't get hacked by someone worse.

Leo, I do feel sorry for you and I know its hard but really, try to think rationally. Hacked by Dante, who hasn't done anything terrible (yet?), or hacked by some idiot who crashes your site and steals info, crashes servers etc? The decision is up to you but I am honestly glad AL is still up and running.. Aren't you?
Dante says:December 27, 2011 at 4:12 amShe is right Leo, Let me fix your site, I know security like the back of my hand. I can ensure you this will never happen again after I am done with it. One of the biggest things I know is vBulletin Security. So stop getting angry, and be thankful that the entire site isn't gone, and that a hacker is offering some protection. It's up to you. But I'm just letting you know there are still vulnerabilities ^_^
Crescent says:December 27, 2011 at 12:32 pmOk not sure when the site was hacked but from what i just read,Leo has a right to be mad at Dante.Yes his security may be weak but you shouldn't be threatening Leo just so u can "secure" the site.For all we know you could be trying to pull something on us so Leo can nvr get back in control of AL.Dont get mad at me for my opinion,but i just wanted to say what i thought of this.
Dante says:December 27, 2011 at 12:51 pmHere is the thing, to reply from above. First of all, I can see that Leo has no idea what he is doing, since he had to spend his holidays fixing the site, when all I did was deface it. A deface takes not even 30 seconds to fix, and that was all I did to the site. Normally, I hack a site, then the owner fixes it an improves the security, I move on. However Leo has not fixed the security on this site at all. So that is my sign to stay here and offer help with that. I am a member of TeamPS. Unless we have a grudge with a site, we help them out. He is actually very lucky that we got to him first, there are other teams out there that will ruthlessly delete the entire site and make it inaccessible. And me making the site inaccessible to Alpha Luna fans would not benefit me in any way so no I am not trying to "pull one over" on you guys. I am simply offering my expertise in internet security, to help a comic site, that would benefit from it.
Wolfvenom says:December 27, 2011 at 12:52 pm@dante- yeah..... I really think that Leo will really take up your offer after you only HACKED HIS ACCOUNT! I think that if you really wanted to tell him about the vulnerabilities of this site then you should have just told him. You just did the douchebag way of doing it where he will never trust you with helping his site and would probably pay a site to help him than accept your offer. At least I rather would.
Dante says:December 27, 2011 at 12:58 pmIn reply to above, Leo will have to trust me. I can tell you right now that whoever he "hires" will not be as good as me.

Leo I strongly suggest getting my help ----
Email: FalloutxZero@Gmail.com
Skype: Dante848x
Or you can contact me at p0wersurge.com
Quint says:December 27, 2011 at 3:17 pmPersonally if you really wanted help, I would have been a bit more subtle and private about it rather than completely defacing the forums because everyone wouldn't have been up in arms about it, and I would have tried to have kept this whole issue private between myself and the site owner.
Heliotroph says:December 27, 2011 at 8:33 pmSeriously Dante, even if you meant well you were extremely obnoxious about it. You could have just contacted Leo instead of messing with the site. Don't expect much, if any, gratitude or trust if that's the way you operate.

Also,

"In reply to above, Leo will have to trust me. I can tell you right now that whoever he "hires" will not be as good as me."

That is just fucking arrogant. He'll have to trust the guy who hacked into his site and defaced his forum - fun. At this point I can't tell if you're just trolling or serious.

This kind of attitude gives the hacking community a bad name.
David says:December 27, 2011 at 9:25 pmI cannot believe this guy. However, we should all just try and remain calm. I don't think that we should be to worried. If things get real serious, we can always involve the authorities.
Uberman5000 says:December 27, 2011 at 9:57 pmLet's say someone broke into your house and stole all your things. Insurance covered you and you got most of your stuff back, but he comes back later and says he was "just showing the flaws in your home's security. You're lucky we got to you first, other burglars can be ruthless! Here's my business card, I'll secure your house for you."

Did he expect us to be impressed? Are we supposed to feel grateful that he's going to "fix" our house? No, our house got broken into by an arrogant creep, he ransacked the place, and he thinks WE owe HIM an apology for not being more appreciative.

Get over yourself, Dante. You're no IT Robin Hood.
Leo says:December 27, 2011 at 10:26 pmIf I notice a house with an open door I don't come in and paint the walls and then say "Hey you need security, see? I could've done much worse but I didn't. Get my help or next time I may not be so nice"
Of course, cleaning the walls isn't as difficult as buying the furniture again. But is no less than being a an ashole.

What I'd do instead is to knock the open door (hint: email) and explain the owner the issue to prevent the problem and offer my help, but if he doesn't want it just continue my way and I'd feel that at least I did something good.

But probably I'm coming from a perspective of a normal person and apparently Hackers have other standars and perspective about the internet, it's not about sharing, is about the strongest survives, the Survival of the fittest if you will. A radical point of view that is all revolution and shit. But you know? there is no war here, there never was one until you got here.

You're offering help of yourself and that doesn't make a lick of sense. Please, let this community be. You get help out of real friends, not from scumbag Steve.
Fan says:December 27, 2011 at 10:42 pmWay to go Leo! :) if this was Facebook I would like your comment. Ps I hope you are still updating tomorrow but if not I can see that you have some "bugs" to deal with :(
Takim says:December 28, 2011 at 12:49 amHey dante wtf it is extremly rude to hack into someones site it could lead to problems and lawsuits lets what happemed to the playstation network that hacker really fucked alot of peopl so if your going to hack somrone tell them it to help them identify the problems of the sit , and you do this for money the end dosent justify the mean s( this is a lesson contuiny doing this you can get into serouis trouble so stop it and let leo handle the problem himself ok dante becauae contuin doing this you will face the consseqiunsed douchbag
Takim says:December 28, 2011 at 12:59 amAnd dante threting people that you could get rid of the sit will you can just go to hell and get raped by the devil , alpha luna is what inspired me to contnue drawing and if you dare do that I sware I will find you and make you PAY so fuck off and leave this site alone permently and stay with your loser ferinds so get the steping a hole
WolfieLove says:December 28, 2011 at 7:57 amI couldent help but over read everything about the hacker. Speaking as a fellow hacker (but i have never hacked into a place i wasent asked to by the owner and i would NEVER hack this site. It rocks to much :D) Dante probobly thought he was doing you a favor.

On the other hand you should ask the site owner before running a security test. Im only 14 and i only onow a little bit about hacking so far but im sure i could find something about it of you really want :) ide do anything to help this site. Your work rocks Leo!
Arkine6 says:December 28, 2011 at 6:03 pmFirst time I ever read the comments on this site.

To Dante - Whatever your intentions were, you obviously aren't welcome here, best thing to do now is take it as a learning experience and be on your way.

To Leo - YOU ROCK! I love this comic. And look at how many people you got behind you backing you up right here. makes me feel all happy inside. ^.^
Even though this hacker thing has happened and its sucked for you, you also got to see loyal fans and that your art has inspired others to continue or do better in their art. (one of Takim's comments reminded me about my own inspirations from this comic.)
Keep up the good work Leo.
Crescent says:December 29, 2011 at 11:43 amLeo's right.Dante may have hacked the site but it's still Leo's comic.I'll be praying for the safety of the site but law suits may be required if Dante doesnt stop.Also just like Takim said,its Leo who has inspired me to keep sketching for fun and im even posting on facebook some of the ones i do.My goal is that in time I can re-draw Luna,Fang,and Collie to see how good ive gotten.So Dante go elsewhere plz and leave AL alone.
David says:December 29, 2011 at 12:22 pmThis site may have be vialated, but it's Leo's. And it should stay that way. "Or else I might not be so nice next time?" What is this blackmail? Leo, have you contacted the authorities or someone who is supposed to handle this kind of situation?

Este sitio puede tener ser vialated, pero es de Leo. Y debe seguir siéndolo. "O si no, no podría ser tan bueno la próxima vez?" ¿Qué es este chantaje? Leo, se ha comunicado a las autoridades o alguien que se supone que debe manejar este tipo de situación?
sgt has says:December 29, 2011 at 12:51 pmBlackmail much?... Dante you are not wanted here so please.just leave this site alone, everything was nice and calm before you started trying to blackmail leo.

Grow up dante
shadowmanwkp says:December 29, 2011 at 2:05 pm@Dante
So a black hat script kid has the illusion of being a white hat? Really get back to school or something kiddo.

Defacing is one of the easiest things to do: mysql exploit, deface. It shows how kid-like you are if you scream around how "great" you are, just like lulzsec (probably your idols). It gives real white hats a bad name. The ethos is that you ask permission first (preferably), then hack, and report back to the site owner. Doing anything else is considered black hat or even script kid behavior.

I agree with all other people here that the site's webmaster should not accept help from you. Heck if you even wanted to help, you would have said from the start how you did it in an e-mail to the webmaster. Instead, you're an nuisance to the victimized parties (the site's owner and the visitors).
Finnish girl says:December 29, 2011 at 4:43 pmOk Leo thought i meant with my words that he should back of! but i still hope he burn in hell. Give satan my regards Dante.

Finnish police are nice because there are polices that have a job to watch over different sites. (not sure if the same is in America)
Polish guy says:December 29, 2011 at 5:49 pmGee, finnish girl. Calm down. Think about what you're writing. You don't wish for a person to go to hell over such a stupid reason. He's just a dick, he didn't murder your family.

You obviously believe in hell, so I'll assume you're religious to some extent. Now, may I remind you that wishing someone the greatest suffering there is for such a trivial reason Is widely considered a sin.
Leo says:December 29, 2011 at 6:54 pm@shadowmanwkp Thanks for your mature and insightful response to the subject.

@EVERYONE Dante's topic is over.
Crescent says:December 29, 2011 at 8:05 pmSeriously finish girl take a chill pill he is just another bastard of the world so he'll get what he deserves in time.Will he go to Hell for hacking,probably not but its not your choice to make on that.

@Leo
He finally left?
TimidTabby says:December 29, 2011 at 10:26 pmI have only ONE thing to say about this defacing issue.

This topic reminded me of this time at my work where a random customer started asking me these questions about my life and if I had any plans on going farther in my employment, mainly if I was still going to school. My answers were apparently unsatisfactory as she practically stated she was going to be making it her mission to get me back into school and thinking about a longer-term career. She said she was going to set up a appointment with a counselor for me.

While I believed her intentions were pure; I never did voice my opinion of her actions, but I found this very rude myself. She didn't have the right to be weaving herself into my life and assuming she knew what would be best for me. That's an invasion of privacy and pretending to be my parents or something of that nature. And considering that I was in a very bad state in my life where I wasn't comfortable with random strangers butting into my affairs (especially when I had no idea what could and still could change in the future), her persistence annoyed me to the point if she did come back and bothered me about forcing change in my current fragile life I was going to tell this to my boss and ask him to call the cops or ban her from the store (she had apparently started this schpeel on two other associates in my store too). And, Honestly, her offer plus story about how she successfully helped another person change his/her life for the better came off as some kind of commercial advertisement.

Luckily; she hasn't come back sense then. But my incident kinda of had some reverberation with this incident (i.e. Dante trying to force improvements on Leo and pushing it too far without his consent). Maybe my event isn't as drastic as what happened here, but I understand very well the frustration Leo had to go threw.

But that is all I'm going to say about it; sorry if I'm spamming on the event.

In other news: I hope you still managed to have a decent holiday Leo, and hope this doesn't throw off your creativity mood. If time needs to taken before getting back into the groove, take it.
David says:December 29, 2011 at 11:07 pmI agree with TimidTabby. You made some very insightful points. But, like Leo said, I think we should move on from this Dante character. So...

Leo, how are the english copies of your volume 1 of Alpha Luna coming along?
Finnish girl says:December 30, 2011 at 6:53 amChreasent

Sorry, i have beem watching too much demon animes. I'm deebly sorry.
Adolf Mingan says:December 30, 2011 at 9:11 amWhen does the comic start up again?
Crescent says:December 30, 2011 at 11:36 am@Finnish girl
I just thought i was harsh thats all.No need to be "deeply" sorry ;)
Finnish girl says:December 30, 2011 at 12:26 pm@Creasent

Well, i'm still sorry, though i always have wanted to see what kind of place are heaven and hell.
Crescent says:December 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm@Finnish girl
Trust me Heaven is a paradise and Hell is a world of endless torture
Finnish girl says:December 30, 2011 at 4:43 pm@Crescent

Well yeah, i know that much, but i'm little bit unsure about heaven, because humans make so much sins, so i think if i should go to heaven or hell. Then as a human i should go to hell and have my punishment. Or so i think about myself. Othets do not deserve it, but for me i think that i'm just bothering other people with me been here.
Crescent says:December 30, 2011 at 5:38 pm@Finnish girl
Idk what your religious views are but i recommend reading the Bible.The Lord created you and loves you so know Heaven is where u belong.Read the Bible for any questions you have on Heaven and Hell.
Finnish girl says:December 30, 2011 at 6:59 pmYeah, but even if i would read it i still feel like i wouldn't deserve to go to enternal paradise, in other words heaven. (i'm the only one in our class who some how even with good hearing can't hear church bells ringing even when i'm just beside our church~.~")

Hope Leo will have new page at least at new year's day, that would be my angel looking little brothers birthday, but belive me he is more like a devil to me.
Rey Fox says:December 30, 2011 at 8:00 pmDon't worry, Finnish Girl, heaven and hell are just make believe. ;)
Drowen says:December 30, 2011 at 8:47 pmFuck off Dante, you do these things cause you have no real job worth your miserable time so you mess with communities.
Takim says:December 30, 2011 at 10:23 pmReyfox heaven and hell are not make belive they are real many people had near death experiances each of them tell storys of seeing a light and feeling calm and peacful and seeing there entire life and there dead family telling them it is not there time while others tell.of being attacked and burning and felling tgere fleash being ripped apart heaven and hell are real
Crescent says:December 30, 2011 at 11:00 pmTHANK U TAKIM!!! Rey Fox,idc if your athiest or what,Heaven and Hell are real.Just cuz u think they're fake doesnt mean its true.Now...back to AL,i hope the new page comes soon im really eager to see whats nxt :)
Quint says:December 30, 2011 at 11:17 pmFarewell Alpha Luna forum, you will be missed.
David says:December 30, 2011 at 11:28 pmWell, I don't think its permanent. Just until we can figure out some other nasty details. But, we'll miss all of you on the forum! Stay in contact via Facebook or email please? ;)
artguy50 says:December 31, 2011 at 10:50 amjust went to Davids "site" to see if i can talk to who ever runs the group and I wouldn't let this guy do any kind of security because there just trolls and A-holes with a lot of free time on there hands so dont let this guy do anything else to your site
Leo

now I have to go and run a shit lot of scans on to my computer to make sure I dont get anything bad for the troll site
Renadt says:December 31, 2011 at 11:22 amOkay, I've been reading since before the hiatus (the last one) and felt the need to finally comment.

@Dante, Yeah, that shit does not fly well with people. "I am only ruining your life to see why you need me to fix it" does not work in real life, will not work here.

@ Takim and Crescent, The mind is capable of so much. You can give the body a sugar pill and if the mind believes it is medicine will cause many of the same effects that the "medicine" was supposed to produce.

Also, the mind is capable of plenty in our dreams- it brings out our worst fears or our most pleasant thoughts. I would be more impressed if a complete stranger showed up in a NDE and said it wasn't your time, since of course it will be family members long deceased, since the people in your dreams will all be based around the people you know or have seen. And why would a loving God send people to suffer for an eternity, and why can't He forgive at the pearly gates? And what absolute proof do you have? And do not say the Bible, since you then have to prove that true, since there is nothing that has been proven by itself and taken credibly, since said book also contradicts itself in many places.
Quint says:December 31, 2011 at 12:41 pmIs it just me or did the site's banner revert back to what it was about a week or two ago?
werewolfdude says:December 31, 2011 at 6:27 pmHappy new year all alpha luna fans
Finnish girl says:December 31, 2011 at 6:40 pm@Renadt

Yes, i myself might think too much, about thinks that normal people don't think. And the sugar bill
thing, well i have had that kind of a thing before. And i know quite a lot of dreams, because i have too much time on my hand. The god thing is, at least what i know is, is that if a person who has made lot of sins is regreting them, he can go to heaven. Fun thing in bible is that, arch angel have names, demons have names, but know one knows the gods name.
wats my name says:December 31, 2011 at 7:16 pmwhere the fucks that dante cunt gone back to his pussy lair
Takim says:December 31, 2011 at 11:19 pmHAPPY NEW YEAR LEO
David says:January 1, 2012 at 12:12 amMerry New Year's everyone! :D
Xodyaq says:January 1, 2012 at 12:13 am@Finnish Girl: God's name is known to be "YHWH" (Pronounced YA-way)
wats my name says:January 1, 2012 at 12:44 amhappy new years eve Leo
GEo says:January 1, 2012 at 1:48 amHappy New Year Leo and everyone!
sgt new year says:January 1, 2012 at 1:53 amHAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! even though it was new year 8 hours ago for me xD
Adolf Mingan says:January 1, 2012 at 2:53 amHappy New Year Werewolves! Celebrated 3 hours ago where I am.
Anne says:January 1, 2012 at 5:01 amHappy new years Leo! I'm kinda late though =P

Hope the new year brings many new things for you, and much more happiness.
Michael Lim Kee Hain says:January 1, 2012 at 12:18 pmCan ppl pls stop whining about the hacking of the forums, seriously some of the comments are somewhat childish. And to Leo , sorry that your forums were hacked by dante but you are not the only one who got hacked like that, also I would suggest ramping up the sercurity etc and happy new year one one day 2 hours 18mins late!
michaellimkeehian says:January 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm(Same person as above)
I'm a silent reader who seldomly posts and I'm a loyal fan. I'm saving up my pocket money to donate 50$ sing to you. Hope you van use thatmoneyto help u Leo.
Renadt says:January 1, 2012 at 1:12 pm@Finnish Girl- Not according to God (or Jesus), since you have to accept a specific story. You can make all the amends you want to to all the people you've wronged, but still burn for all eternity for not asking Him for forgiveness. But then again, no other religion before Catholicism had ever told humanity that they were evil from birth, and were not worth saving, but since God is so merciful he decided to spare us and even alter his "perfect" plan.

Seriously, we are in a seriously battered relationship with this deity here. Imagine a person telling us how worthless we were, and that only their divine bliss was saving us, or flooded a village for not liking them. They'd be pretty evil, right? And yet God isn't?
Fan says:January 1, 2012 at 3:58 pmHappy new years AL fans!! In Canada I'm not too late :P
Crescent says:January 2, 2012 at 12:08 amWhen's the next update Leo?Ofcourse,I can't blame you for being late since Dante came along and hacked the site.But as ive said before i am a loyal fan of the site and am willing to wait as long as you ask :)
Calahorn says:January 2, 2012 at 8:54 amOk! How did the comments go from the site being hacked to religious point of views?
S2DPro says:January 2, 2012 at 11:26 amNice page Leo! Sorry about all the drama listed above. People don't know when to quit. Never have, probably never will. Good luck on the next pages, I am anxiously anticipating the next release.
-Okami- says:January 2, 2012 at 7:25 pmHappy New Year everyone!

And I quite agree, people should really drop the religious rambling. Everyone is free to believe what they wish, and shouldn't try to prove that they're right or wrong.

Relating to the comic (as comments should be...), I am quite thrilled to see how the rest of this chapter unfolds! Looking forward to the next page. :)
Takim says:January 2, 2012 at 8:42 pmThe only reason the conversation xhanged is beacause people like interesting conversations and debates and peoppe ahould beleiveb what they want im not forcing you to belevie in my belifes
Crescent says:January 2, 2012 at 9:06 pmI'm not forcing any beliefs either i just spoke my opinion.Also Takim has a point.People enjoy changed subjects from time to time otherwise no one would talk after a while because there would be nothing left to say on the matter.Plus,the comments get more interesting that way.
Renadt says:January 3, 2012 at 12:31 pmIndeed. I honestly kike the debates where both sides present their philosophies and can back them up. I hate fanatics from either side who provide no proof of their claim, just simply state that "you're wrong." Both Takim and Crescent have very good counters.

And also, Dante can suck it, and wonderful comic! Here's hoping for one on Thursday.
Renadt says:January 3, 2012 at 12:32 pmThat was like, not kike, whatever that means.
David says:January 3, 2012 at 4:55 pmHey guys, in all seriousness, I think we need to stop talking about Dante. You can give Leo your sympathies about the situation, but let's not dwell on it eh? I think we need to drop it.
Crescent says:January 3, 2012 at 7:11 pmI already tried getting back to AL in my defense.Im still curious for when Fang comes back into all this and how Luna will fully respond to her transformation in upcoming pages.
Quint says:January 4, 2012 at 12:18 amYay, banner's fully colored again.
zoloft says:January 4, 2012 at 4:10 amAaaaand it's awesome
michaellimkeehian says:January 4, 2012 at 6:01 ami am waiting < no hurry> ill wait till you update. and nice banner!
OnlyDrvaal says:January 4, 2012 at 3:04 pmYay we want more more and more Luna. Greetings from Poland btw.
Leo says:January 4, 2012 at 7:19 pmPlease, read the twitter for updates.
Quint says:January 4, 2012 at 8:21 pmHope you get better soon Leo.
Crescent says:January 4, 2012 at 9:13 pmSame here.I hope you get well soon Leo :)
Takim says:January 5, 2012 at 2:14 pmI dont have a twitter account why
Crescent says:January 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm@Takim

You dont need one just look at the red box on the right of the site(nxt to the cutie paypal Luna) and it tells you the twitter updates.
waffles says:January 6, 2012 at 7:27 pmFUS RO DAH!!
waffles says:January 6, 2012 at 7:28 pmI hope everyone is okay!

Anne says:January 6, 2012 at 11:15 pmHola Leo, espero que te sientas bien pronto. Lo siento por mi español malo, soy nuevo.

Um. I wanted to say "Hi Leo! I hope you get better soon. Sorry for my bad Spanish, I'm still learning!" but I'm mostly going off memory from a phrasebook I'm trying to memorize and I couldn't remember the right words exactly.. I think I got the feminine/masculine things wrong too..

Um, anyways, yeah, hope you get better soon. Take it easy, don't rush and try to draw, you need rest =) por favor tomar la siesta.
Leo says:January 7, 2012 at 1:34 amYou did well Anne with the words. But with "soy nuevo" you just said "I'm new" and not " Aún estoy aprendiendo" which is what you said in english :p.
Thanks for the wishes, I'm recovering I'm drawing now. Take care!
Adolf Mingan says:January 7, 2012 at 3:52 amYEA!! New banner is back up.
Renadt says:January 7, 2012 at 1:16 pmI just had n epiphany- technically, Dante was trying to extort Leo, in a sense. He facilitated (caused) a threat and then proceeded to be the solution as well. If that is the case, you might have a case against this "Dante."
Crescent says:January 8, 2012 at 1:17 pmSince the new page didnt come as planned i enjoyed improvising by re-reading AL from the start and one page i love the most is when Fang and Collie meet and the picture of the map shows up with the wolf face sticking his toung out XD.
Anne says:January 8, 2012 at 9:21 pmsí, me olvidé de la palabra para el aprendizaje.

Umm. I think I got that one right though! I forgot the word for learning so I just substituted new.. Should've probably said new to Spanish though. Oh well. At least I'm making progress. Anyways, glad you're doing better but take your time =)
David says:January 9, 2012 at 8:06 pm@Crescent

Yeah, that is pretty funny. That old man is so mischievous. I really liked Luna's reaction to Fang when he was doing his business out in the backyard.
Crescent says:January 9, 2012 at 9:53 pm@David

xD lol that was soooo wrong in many ways.But still it was funny i admit that along with Fangs wonderful table manners xD
Shonya says:January 10, 2012 at 3:01 pmLeo.
Y U NO post next page??
Crescent says:January 10, 2012 at 3:51 pmHey im upset to but dont take it out on Leo give him some more time Shonya
David says:January 10, 2012 at 9:24 pmRemember, he has come down with the flu, so let him rest. It's not like he's going to disappear another year right?

...

right? O.o

Jk! :D
Leo says:January 10, 2012 at 11:36 pmThis is not good.
tkfilm47 says:January 11, 2012 at 12:09 amHow are you feeling Leo?
Anne says:January 11, 2012 at 1:53 amGeez, you guys are more paranoid then I thought. He's sick and only gone a week and you're worried he'll be gone another year. I really doubt he'll do it again without a warning or something, he's a really good artist and I trust him.

I'm not feeling that great either. Had to go to the dentist last monday and that whole day was crap, yesterday was crummy and I still don't feel that great. Stupid dentists.. I probably wouldn't be drawing either. So I just hope both of us feel better soon Leo =)
Kiojan says:January 11, 2012 at 2:41 amHe's alright - just recovering. Remember, drawing and writing AL is not his full time job AND he has a bunch of commissions to worry about.
Crescent says:January 11, 2012 at 2:01 pmLeo needs rest not just for the flu,but just in general i think.He's only human like everyone else and it takes alot outta him to draw each page.Plus he has a life to live outside of here remember?He may just wanna watch TV,hang with friends,get work done, or even get drunk!xD (just kidding Leo) So i dont care about the delay.Its reasonable why he hasn't updated in 2 weeks.
Adolf Mingan says:January 12, 2012 at 3:04 amI do not mind the wait as always, go out and find something to tie yourself over until we congregate again. Current reading Dorohedoro on Spectrum Nexus, get an idea of both fashion/art styles of Gorillaz and Slipknot mixed together, with a story sort of similar to Berserk. I recommend poking around on there for interesting reads.

Me, balancing the college classes as a full-timer this semester and taking time learning how to upload to my youtube account in between all of this and reading my current love, Dorohedoro.

Sometimes we all need a break from what we all do constantly, be it working, studying, or just nagging someone. Everyone needs time to heal and restore themselves to normal before re-approaching certain hobbies, goals, you name it.
Finnish girl says:January 12, 2012 at 4:33 amHope you get well Leo!
\Kishio/ says:January 12, 2012 at 7:03 amThe last time leo "disapeared", I waited for months to se the new pages of the comic. I guess everybody (including me) can wait for some weeks until Leo gets better. And let's give the guy some credit. Some artists update once in 15 days, or even twice a month while our friend Leo sends a new comic every week.
Crescent says:January 12, 2012 at 7:08 amCase and point.Everyone should find another occupation till there is an update and no more nagging Leo about it.
_______________________ says:January 12, 2012 at 1:51 pm........................
jmk says:January 13, 2012 at 8:43 pmwhen are you gonna make another page? ive been waiting for a while
tkfilm47 says:January 14, 2012 at 4:28 amAre you gonna make the next page yet? We can't the supence.
werewolfdude says:January 14, 2012 at 8:48 amHe says on twitter that its probaly gonna be on sunday
jmk says:January 14, 2012 at 6:13 pmfinally!!!!
Anne says:January 14, 2012 at 6:26 pmWow jmk, you're really ungrateful. We all kinda got that way after a year, but really? He's sick and it hasnt even been two weeks. And im glad he didn't shut it down after the hacking incident! But here you are throwing a fit because, apparently, ten days is "a while". Yeesh man, go buy some comics or something, maybe start a hobby? Collect wolf stamps? XD
Crescent says:January 14, 2012 at 6:58 pm@Anne

Um anne...its been almost 3 weeks honestly so idk where youve been but whatever.Also whats with the "ungrateful" comment?He has a right to be excited about the next update.Sure i agree that we shouldnt be all over Leo blabing in his face about it but its your way of seeing things.
Soook12 says:January 15, 2012 at 2:09 pmawww its sunday!
tkfilm47 says:January 16, 2012 at 12:51 amDang, he's been out for 11 days now.
werewolfdude says:January 16, 2012 at 5:00 amim really sorry, i said wrong. i mean Saturday
Rune says:January 16, 2012 at 7:24 amI really think Leo should stop working with deadlines & just post whenever he feels like it, cause making a deadline and then repeatatly not deliver does not demand respect
Heliotroph says:January 16, 2012 at 7:00 pmAs much as I hate to say it, I think Leo has gone on another one of his (patent pending) unannounced extended hiatuses. Nothing we can do but wait.
GunmastO says:January 16, 2012 at 7:17 pm@tkfilm47 Yeah he definately hasn't been out longer than this...
tkfilm47 says:January 17, 2012 at 12:02 am@GunmastO He's gotta be over his cold by now!!
Volinus says:January 17, 2012 at 7:17 am"He skipped the deadline again."
"This- This is really happening!" said Luna
Raven-wolf lycan says:January 17, 2012 at 12:56 pm@ Rune:
Yes, I definitely think that Leo should rest ...... this work is very tiring, and I say this from experience, it takes much time to draw ....
Mac says:January 17, 2012 at 2:01 pmI think we should all give Leo a break as he has been through a lot with the whole "Dante" situation and he might have paid commissions that he might need to finish.

I have followed his work for years and I am just grateful when he is able to update as it must take him a long time to complete one page and we are getting his great work for free

Keep up the good work Leo
Random Joe says:January 17, 2012 at 2:31 pmI know of another webcomic that is usually good about making updates on time despite vast RL issues. A while back, they had a donation drive promising extra comic pages for every $X they got. They had to shut it down after a few hours because of how quickly people put their Supreme-Court-Approved "speech" to use.


Alas, out of 18 owed pages, a year and a half later, their front page STILL says "Comics owed: 10"



Just a thought. And a suggestion.

And a wag of the finger, because loyal fans deserve Respect. At LEAST come by and post a text update once in a while, Leo!!

A "hey, bad crap happening to internet, posting from library, sorry" isn't so hard. Stringing people along for months- or years-long hiatuses is not right.
Adolf Mingan says:January 17, 2012 at 3:58 pmLet us just hope that both SOPA and PIPA do not get passed and shut sites like this down. USA and our traitorous acts we pass quietly while people are busy drowning in "buy this, buy that".

Hopefully, things are looking up Leo.
Dude... says:January 18, 2012 at 1:07 amWTF does this site have to do with SOPA? It's an original webcomic. The copyright holder owns it!


I'm against SOPA, but you can't just claim the current "Big Bad Bill" in congress is going to affect EVERYTHING, because then you make opponents of the bill look like ignorant 'tards by association.
Dude... says:January 18, 2012 at 1:08 amNot to mention the fact that Leo doesn't live in the USA and probably doesn't host the site in the USA...so the only people SOPA could effect even if Leo stole a line from Star Wars are people IN the USA.
Grace says:January 18, 2012 at 2:15 amThis site could very easily be taken down by SOPA or PIPA. Just because it isn't an american-based site doesn't mean anything. Corporations will have jurisdiction to block the ip of this comic to anybody in the US. There will be no due process, and there will be little we can do to stop it if it does happen. SOPA and PIPA are a huge threat to the safety of the internet.
Michael lim says:January 18, 2012 at 5:16 amF*** SOPA sometimes...
Leo get well soon
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waffle says:January 18, 2012 at 8:11 amDid someone say waffles?
GEo says:January 18, 2012 at 10:20 amThe big issue with SOPA and PIPA is not that it would hurt Leo, this site and him would be fine. The issue is if they passed these bills, users of the internet in the USA would be blocked from using sites like this, should some company or power in the government decide that this sight is a threat to America or American business.

Now I doubt this site would be blocked, SHOULD such bills get passed. BUT if such bills existed, and the way they are right now phrased, anyone with money, power, or pull in the US government could force to sensor sites from US internet users. weather they be from outside the US or from within. This is similar to what we have been hearing and seeing in China. So if a group should take power in the US Government and decide they want to close off all outside influence to the US through the net, they could do it under these bills. Very similar to the book burnings and other acts that the Nazis did back before World War 2.

In short to all non-US viewers, these bills are an attack on the first amendment right of US Citizens and one we pride ourselves on, even if it has had a tendency to come back and bight us on the ass, Freedom of Speach.
GrammarNazi says:January 18, 2012 at 5:09 pmSpeech.
Renadt says:January 18, 2012 at 7:30 pmEvil beware, we have waffles.
GM says:January 18, 2012 at 8:52 pmthe congress is really getting on my nerves and these stupid acts are the same thing that the British did way back to the colonists and we all know how that tuned out
GM says:January 18, 2012 at 8:55 pmnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo a grammer nazi its so scary make it go away!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "runs away screaming"
Waffles says:January 18, 2012 at 9:33 pmGO TUCK YOURSELF IN BED SOPA AND PIPA!!
Adolf Mingan says:January 18, 2012 at 11:21 pmI was just bring it to our attention, sure this may not apply to international readers but for us Americans it does. I like some of the humor the last posters put on the issue. I would add that there should be werewolves going after the rotten ones.

@GEo: Very good information, indeed.

@Grace: I agree with what you said, it could happen or not. Wikipedia went black as did other site in opposition against these traitorous acts.

@Dude...: What about claims? If you listen/read to independent news sources, you would get the picture.
Adolf Mingan says:January 18, 2012 at 11:27 pm*Snarls* GREAT!!!!!! WHO TOOK ALL THE SOPAPILLAS???? BOEHNER!!!!!! GET BACK HERE SO I CAN TAKE A BITE OUT OF YOU. ROAR!!!!!!!
TSG says:January 19, 2012 at 8:51 amFrom what I've seen this morning, last week there was 5 senators against SOPA. Today there's 35. We need 41 of them to vote NO so that SOPA can be put out of our sight for good.
Crescent says:January 19, 2012 at 10:18 amThe government is supposed to help FIX problems not START them *growls*
Rei says:January 19, 2012 at 4:01 pmOn maybe related news:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/01/19/feds-shut-down-file-sharing-website/

Long story short: Megaupload is gone.
hrimhari says:January 19, 2012 at 5:21 pmThought I'd drop my 2 cents. SOPA/PIPA would seem to allow for any US citizen to make copyright claims against any site to internet providers and payment systems in the US. These entities would be forced to cut access to the site without even confirming the claim. As a consequence:

1- If the site is in the US, it would become completely unavailable.
2- If the site is not in the US, it would become unavailable to US citizens.
3- If the site depends on AMEX, PayPal or other US based company, it would starve to death.

Finally, hosting in the US is usually cheaper than elsewhere, so there are good chances of Leo using an US based hosting company.

And by the way, the Tweeter icon still points to Dante's.
David says:January 19, 2012 at 7:59 pmGrrrr... May SOPA/PIPA grow like onions with their heads in the ground!
Waffles says:January 19, 2012 at 8:59 pmIf the bills pass...I don't even want to know what's going to happen to the internet...
Crescent says:January 19, 2012 at 10:15 pmI swear if AL goes down ill mentally suicied T_T cant do physicaly for many reasons but still i have no idea what will bring joy to me if i lose access to this site.May SOPA/PIPA rot in Hell if they do such a thing!!!!
Adolf Mingan says:January 20, 2012 at 6:15 amI just want to say the worse is over for now. It might be brought back up later after damned elections this November.

@Cresent: I see, you seem young for saying that. I checked the sites, some have links to contacting State Senators, and what such. As long as you got a voice, you have the power.
Crescent says:January 20, 2012 at 11:09 am@Adolf Mingan
Yeah im 14 and i just hate the thought of no more AL :/ i see sites protesting about SOPA and am sick of this whole thing.
TSG says:January 20, 2012 at 6:16 pmAny newz about Leo? Still sick?
TSG says:January 20, 2012 at 6:20 pmBy the way, I guess Leo is aware that the deep asshole known as Dante X changed the link of the twitter button of the site to link to his own twitter account.

Ooooh, I hate guys like him! >_<
David says:January 20, 2012 at 6:42 pmHey uh TSG, we all kinda wanted to drop the Dante subject. Leo's not comfortable talking about it anymore, and I think its best we stop trying to give him the attention he wants.
David says:January 20, 2012 at 6:44 pmBut yes, Leo I believe is still ill, and is slowly recovering. I recall he said something about it "getting worse..." or something along those lines :/
DefenderX says:January 20, 2012 at 10:17 pmHe's contracted 'Lycanthropy' and is recovering from its first stage.
sSICKk says:January 20, 2012 at 10:35 pmIn a sense this comic had many parts copied from originals. But who the he'll cares!
sSICKk says:January 20, 2012 at 10:35 pmIn a sense this comic had many parts copied from originals. But who the he'll cares!
sSICKk says:January 20, 2012 at 10:35 pmIn a sense this comic had many parts copied from originals. But who the he'll cares!
Waffles says:January 20, 2012 at 11:34 pmIn the mean time, I'm working on a fan comic in the AL area. :P
David says:January 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm@Waffles How's that coming along btw

@DefenderX He had Lycanthropy long before he wrote this comic. Almost every single event in this comic has been inspired by real life events ;D
Waffles says:January 22, 2012 at 1:04 pm@David: The comic is doing pretty well, still in the inking process.

I wish, I can have someone digitally color it for me.
GM says:January 22, 2012 at 10:27 pmsomebody crack a joke please and a fan comic oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sounds fascinating cant wait to read it. so the Superbowl anybody going to watch it. And lastly Texas ROCKS YEAH
Adolf Mingan says:January 23, 2012 at 4:36 amBest of luck retrieving your Hard Disk, Leo. I will wait however long it takes to pick up the pieces.

@GM: Do not own a TV with signal input; plus, who needs one in college?

New Mexico ROCKS, love it out here. 2 years and on... dang!!
GM says:January 23, 2012 at 3:26 pm@Adolf Mingan yeah I've been to New Mexico its beautiful there in the winter and great for skiing never been though so cant say the slopes are any good but i bet they are. so ever been to cloudcroft before.
Adolf Mingan says:January 25, 2012 at 12:59 am@GM: I only passed through that village while leaving Alamogordo for Roswell on a family vacation back in 2004. Been throughout the state except Santa Fe... spent a day hiking around Tent Rocks, ate around the outskirts of that city to the south last year. Been to Sandia Peak once, have never gone skiing in my life.
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