No Chocolate for Werewolves?

[neoritter]

The question is can werewolves eat chocolate?
My answer is no.
Reason is that basically chocolate is poisonous to dogs and I assume this is true for wolves so I'm betting a werewolf would find real chocolate poisonous or at least highly detrimental to their health.

So, what do you think?

[kitetsu]

Werewolves can't eat chocolate unless they've had their stomachs strengthened as a result of the combination of human and wolf digestive systems, or if they just retain their human digestive system with a few tweaks.

So my answer is that it depends heavily.

[confidental]

During transformation, There should be a lot of chemical reactions happening in the body. If the human digestive system is still intact when in the werewolf form, Well.....It should be OK for them to eat chocolates. But if the digestive system has been changed into wolf's digestive system...It is DEADLY for them, cause they'll vomit and/or maybe they'll be knocked out...

Or if both digestive systems has been combined.....Umm...It is very confusing....probably they might be able to eat chocolate or maybe not...It depends. For me, I think it should be possible [even 1% though] for werewolves to eat chocolate....

[Lycanthropy]

I think they could still eat chocolate with a combined system, though they might get really bad heartburn or something.

[midnightclubx]

But what if you ate chocolate right before you transform?

[neoritter]

Originally posted by midnightclubx@Jun 6 2006, 06:20 PM
But what if you ate chocolate right before you transform?

18009

Thats another question. Lets assume that even a hybrid form werewolf can not eat chocolate. What would happen if you transformed after you ate some?
My guess is nothing because any food in the person's system would be used up in the transformation.

[Zenislev]

Originally posted by neoritter@Jun 6 2006, 08:54 PM
Thats another question. Lets assume that even a hybrid form werewolf can not eat chocolate. What would happen if you transformed after you ate some?
My guess is nothing because any food in the person's system would be used up in the transformation.

18012


I'd have to agree with that, as the human enzymes would already be in the stomach prior to transformation.

As for the original point, though...I'd say it'd be nothing too extreme. Maybe an upset stomach, potentially diarrhea. In extreme cases, vomitting.

[z_wolf_59661]

I think it'd be more like an allergic reaction to the chocolate, the deadly effects of chocolate on dogs and the harmless effects of it on humans canceling each other out to produce a reaction that is not deadly, but not completely safe, either. Food poisoning, maybe? :sickpup:

[kitetsu]

Originally posted by z_wolf_59661@Jun 6 2006, 07:14 PM
I think it'd be more like an allergic reaction to the chocolate, the deadly effects of chocolate on dogs and the harmless effects of it on humans canceling each other out to produce a reaction that is not deadly, but not completely safe, either. Food poisoning, maybe? :sickpup:

18015


Fuck, man, you're making it sound like the chocolate has silver nuts in 'em. xD

[of wolf and man]

you know, i gave thought to this once, but then a more interesting topic came to mind, and i forgot completely.

[wolfman]

I'm sure that chocolate would not harm a werewolf in any way because since your a werewolf your still part human so I don't think I would do any thing to your digestive system. (A little gas may be)

[Matolf]

It would depend a lot on if the person had the digestive tract of a human or a wolf. I also agree that they would burn all the food up in the shift. I don't know really. Only one way to find out. Capture one and force feed it chocalate.

FYI that last part was sarcastic.

[SilverBack Novelist]

I don't know...At the most it'll make a werewolf really fat and bloated. It's not a very nice scene, a fat werewolf. It's kind of pitiful, really.
I'd worry more about coconuts. On the Freeborn forum they made mention that coconuts make werewolves drunk....Don't look at me. I didn't suggest it.

[neoritter]

I don't know...At the most it'll make a werewolf really fat and bloated. It's not a very nice scene, a fat werewolf. It's kind of pitiful, really.
I'd worry more about coconuts. On the Freeborn forum they made mention that coconuts make werewolves drunk....Don't look at me. I didn't suggest it.

Where and how did they draw that conclusion? God I swear the idiots on that freeborn forum. Some guy was trying to have the werewolves with biolumniscent eyes and poisonous drool. Thats pretty much why I stopped going there.

[SilverBack Novelist]

Where and how did they draw that conclusion? God I swear the idiots on that freeborn forum. Some guy was trying to have the werewolves with biolumniscent eyes and poisonous drool. Thats pretty much why I stopped going there.

I have no idea. I think it was some sort of joke. That's where the throwing of duckies come from. It's just a joke. You know, haha. Fun, that sort of thing. I know it's so strange having fun on a forum, especially when it's something repetitively boring like werewolves...something of which it revolves around. You're bound to get bored with moon transformations. Sound familiar?

[Vain]

I have no idea. I think it was some sort of joke. That's where the throwing of duckies come from. It's just a joke. You know, haha. Fun, that sort of thing. I know it's so strange having fun on a forum, especially when it's something repetitively boring like werewolves...something of which it revolves around. You're bound to get bored with moon transformations. Sound familiar?

It cabin fever other there, then. It's kind of over here too.

[The wild one]

i read somewhere that canines find it poisonous because they cannot metabolise a chemical that chocolate contains( i can't remember the name) a dog would die from 400 grams of the stuff, and around half would cause irreperable damage to the organs such as kidneys.

though i'd say a werewolf would certainly be able to eat it, if he has a combined digestive system and metabolism, as kitetsu mentioned, then whats the harm? just get hyper if you have too much of it.

[neoritter]

I have no idea. I think it was some sort of joke. That's where the throwing of duckies come from. It's just a joke. You know, haha. Fun, that sort of thing. I know it's so strange having fun on a forum, especially when it's something repetitively boring like werewolves...something of which it revolves around. You're bound to get bored with moon transformations. Sound familiar?

Difference from here and there though is that we don't have topics that are like "RAWR!!! WEREWOLVES SHOULD HAVE TENTACLES!!!! RAWR!!!"

I've understood the intentions of joking but part of that websites creations was to create a true werewolf for Freeborn. Poisonous and coconut allergic werewolves are not true, ya know? The "serious" idiot ideas on there were amazing.

BTW - 2000th post bitches!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :gangster:

[Matolf]

Nice. I don't think they could get drunk off cocunuts, but the bioluminecent eyes could be true. Wolves have them to an extent.

[WLewy]

Canines are sensitive to chocolate , thats for sure.But they don't eat chocolate in the first place.They can sense if something is poisonous .:closedgrin:

[Vain]

Canines are sensitive to chocolate , thats for sure.But they don't eat chocolate in the first place.They can sense if something is poisonous .:closedgrin:

Those animals will eat just about anything. They'll look at that chocolate bar and say, "Yum, funny smelling human food. They always have to the good stuff to eat. Gimmy! Gimmy!"
Personally, I think my dog will eat till it explodes....that fat ass dog...
As for werewolves, I'd say that the metabolism doesn't change very much. If you're allergic then you're allergic. "Get this werewolf some poppy seeds!"

[WLewy]

Those animals will eat just about anything. They'll look at that chocolate bar and say, "Yum, funny smelling human food. They always have to the good stuff to eat. Gimmy! Gimmy!"
Personally, I think my dog will eat till it explodes....that fat ass dog...
As for werewolves, I'd say that the metabolism doesn't change very much. If you're allergic then you're allergic. "Get this werewolf some poppy seeds!"
Well thats probably your dog ,but the one that I have hardly takes something that is human food. He's okay with dog food and some nutritious food , but chocolate!:HighlySurprised:
Hey , but almost every dog is different in one way or another.
Another thing if I found out that my dog stole and ate something that belonged to my lunchbox than he would regret the day he was born.
As for werewolves...I hope aren't so stupid enough to eat it and die of it later .

[neoritter]

Most dogs will eat chocolate if presented with it. Most dogs will also eat just about anything that comes from the owners hands. My dog will eat lettuce if I eat some first and then hand her the rest.

[Were Dono]

...I have a few dogs and have been around dogs all my life.
And I know...pretty much that almost all dogs will eat just about everything, if given the chance.

Your dog probably doesn't, because of the punishment you'd give it if it does.

Personally, I like to feed mine carrots.
Screw getting dog treats, these are cheaper... xD

[WLewy]

...I have a few dogs and have been around dogs all my life.
And I know...pretty much that almost all dogs will eat just about everything, if given the chance.

Your dog probably doesn't, because of the punishment you'd give it if it does.

Personally, I like to feed mine carrots.
Screw getting dog treats, these are cheaper... xD


To be honest he was punished when he was younger for taking stuff without my permission.Yet for punishing him not to eat it I was bitten a bit.(...nothing to serious...)
Yes , dogs eat everything you give them if you do not teach them not to.
I wouldn't like my dog to get sick because some junk food that he ate.
But I never heard a dog die of chocolate, max had some problems with digesting it.

[SilverBack Novelist]

...and that's why my dog is a fatass. I knew I did something wrong by feed her pizza crusts.
Well, there's a sure way of hunting for a werewolf. Throw some twinkles and yohos at them and they'll be too busy to chase after you. Thanks for the tip. I'll remember that and forget silver bullets. If they're diabetics then throw them some junk food. Wonderful. Thanks again....

[WLewy]

To bad that there aren't werewolves nearby to test the theory , but maybe on wolves or dogs(... that would like to invite humans to lunch...). Or maybe not . In any case if I have the chance I'll will try it out on the neighbors dog (...I'll show that stupid dog that no animal can toy with me!...):angry:
Oh, yes and junk food can be useful in some cases (...hm , how come they never made a movie with werewolves being shape-shift back into humans with a few bar of chocolates...No , never mind ...)
You gave me some new ideas. Thanks:panting:

[SilverBack Novelist]

You might think that werewolves would be a bunch of fatties. You look at the stereotypical werewolf that feeds every night. Man, I don't know if you know this, but if you eat before you go to bed you'll gain weight faster. Fat werewolves. I'm telling you. Werewolves are fatties. I don't care how fast your metabolism works. You're going to get fat that way, eating fat humans and their chocolate.
:lol: Go ahead. Eat that chocolate. That's right. Get fat you stupid werewolf...Freaken Fatty!

[WLewy]

I'm not familiar with eating before going to bed , but I'm sure that if werewolves eat chocolate before going to bed than they might not wake up, if they run a bit before going to bed , then they might a few minor problems . I'm not sure that werewolves can ever get fat cause when shifting they might burn it up. I'm sure I'll wont eat chocolate before going to bed(...I don't remember doing so...).
Why not put it to the test...?:lol: How hard can it get to find a proper werewolf ?
Or, wait 30-40 years and well see how fat a werewolf gets by doing so!:cake:

[Night Wolf]

Man, I don't know if you know this, but if you eat before you go to bed you'll gain weight faster.
Weird...I eat burgers or some chicken almost every night, and I weight 50kg. (1,80, 18 years...meaning, I'm OVER-thin xD)

[SilverBack Novelist]

Weird...I eat burgers or some chicken almost every night, and I weight 50kg. (1,80, 18 years...meaning, I'm OVER-thin xD)

You've got a super high metabolism. That's or you're a nocturnal throwuper, a nightly belimic.

[kitetsu]

Same thing with me. 3 years of trying to gain weight and i still stay at the 50kg range.

[WLewy]

Is it a good thing to have a high metabolism ?
I mean aren't you hungry all the time?:HighlySurprised:

[neoritter]

That bad thing with a high metabolism is that you need to keep it up because it will slow down and when it does you won't realize it right away.

[WLewy]

Can it do some harm if it slows down?
If it can , what?

[SilverBack Novelist]

I think it's easier to get a six pack with a high metabolism. You're already lean. You just need to do a lot of sit ups. I have a low metabilism and so its harder to get the shape I want. Having a high matabolism causes your body to pass your food through your digestive track faster, hence you're skinny. You also might not be getting all the nutrients into your body because of this. That is why you...need to.....feed.:CafinatedWolf:

[WLewy]

Recently I read newspaper article on this , but the only conclusion I was able to take out from the text is that both of them have their good and bad sides. (I'm trying to look on the bright side of things , but not to much...)
By the way thanks for the info...:howl:

[Vain]

I want to note that becoming a werewolf is not a good way to establishing your six pack abs. Werewolfism results in excessive hair, an allergy to chocolate and possible gayness. If you have the symptom of overgrown hair, bloating of the face and neck as well as thoughts of streaking in the forest go see a dermatologist and a hair waxing specialist. Also, generously put hot alcohol around your groin, armpit and back area....It'll makes you invisible.:closedgrin:

PS. For all those who don't think they're werewolves, watch the movie Revenge of the Nerds, the football practice/jock scene.

[WLewy]

I want to note that becoming a werewolf is not a good way to establishing your six pack abs. Werewolfism results in excessive hair, an allergy to chocolate and possible gayness. If you have the symptom of overgrown hair, bloating of the face and neck as well as thoughts of streaking in the forest go see a dermatologist and a hair waxing specialist. Also, generously put hot alcohol around your groin, armpit and back area....It'll makes you invisible.:closedgrin:

PS. For all those who don't think they're werewolves, watch the movie Revenge of the Nerds, the football practice/jock scene.
I hope you don't mind me asking , but were did you get this info (...I never heard of such...)
Still... it sounds interesting.( ...I'm lucky that I'm not a werewolf...):lol:

[SilverBack Novelist]

Maybe it might get them drunk instead of killing them. There's got to be something that causes drunken behavior among creatures of this sort. Bird get intoxicated from eating berries. Cats have their cat nip. We humans have alcohol. The Eskimo rub noses. there's got to be something that gets them snokered. Why not chocolate?

[Indiana_Jones]

Fools!!! Werewolves can only eat chocolate at every Full Moon. :CafinatedWolf:

[WLewy]

:grinwiggle:
You might have a point there.
It sounds a bit strange , but it's still good.
Maybe werewolves died out because of eating chocolate :ROFLMAO:

[SilverBack Novelist]

Maybe werewolves died out because there were no female werewolves and so they went extinct because they couldn't figure out how to mate in an all male society. Didn't think of that, did you?
:lol:

[WLewy]

Awww...Nope:howl:
That could be another cause , but then what happened with all the female werewolves?:allears:

[neoritter]

Well women like chocolate so the females at all that chocolate and died off.

[SilverBack Novelist]

Ate all that chocolate, hu? We'll, I suppose there's a limit to how much you eat. I certainly think this relates to the topic of how much a k-9 can eat. K-9, especially dogs, in my experience, continue to eat until they burst. That isn't to say that my dog has ever burst. Of course my dog has never burst. I know my dog has never burst, but at least she is so fat and on the verge of bursting. She's so fat that the fat on her has deposited into lumps all around his body. We call her Fatty Brown, the existentially proportioned rottie.
Chocolate in large quantities is the equivalence to love potion number 9. But like watching presidential debates and long winded speeches by Hillary Clinton, the smartest woman in the world, you can get sick from it and in the case of werewolves die.

[Silver Predator Wolf]

LOL!!! Nice theroy. Also, maybe it's because there are so few and they are hard to find. That might be why they died out. But than again....... who knows......

[WLewy]

:lol: Chocolate the cause of extinction of werewolves. Why didn't they use chocolate instead of silver to defeat werewolves in movies.:lol:
I'm just surprised that their instincts don't tell them not to eat chocolate.:cry:

[Vain]

My instinct tell me to stop eating the stuff, yet I still eat it, resulting in having a giggly butt.

[WLewy]

Ya...same here ( ...sometimes... ):lol:
Although I know it's not healthy to eat much I still eat junk food sometimes...Probably werewolves and dogs do the same ( just a little more of this and that...and a little gets bigger by every second ) :lol:
But there is no problem if sport activities are done to burn that unused fat that comes from junk food...:closedgrin:

[kitetsu]

Maybe werewolves died out because there were no female werewolves and so they went extinct because they couldn't figure out how to mate in an all male society. Didn't think of that, did you?
:lol:

Any media that depicts werewolves as strictly gay and monogendered is a cliche i do not have humor towards. :/

[Vain]

I think it's kind of funny, not a Dane Cook funny, but a haha that funny for the geek funny. It kind of reminds me of the movie Jurassic Park.
Dinosaur Geneticist says to Malcom, "Are you saying that a species composed entirely of females will.....breed?"

[kitetsu]

I think it's kind of funny, not a Dane Cook funny, but a haha that funny for the geek funny. It kind of reminds me of the movie Jurassic Park.
Dinosaur Geneticist says to Malcom, "Are you saying that a species composed entirely of females will.....breed?"

The geek part i can chuckle at, but i generally think of gay monogendered werewolf societies as tasteless and tends to smell like a really pathetic excuse to put 2 random male werewolves in a sexual situation.

[WLewy]

Awww...You have point there...:closedgrin:
Although everyone has different taste...( or thinks differently at least).

[Moon Hunter]

It would be rather funny if you used a chocolate bullet to kill a werewolf, asuming it was possable the the bullet didn't break appart... not as poetic as a silver one and really embarising. I died because I got shot by chocolate...

[Spike]

Chocolate isn't the only thing that canines shouldn't eat, onions, caffeine and alcohol aswell as a whole list of other foods are toxic to them, so if you retain a canines digestive tract and metabolism as a werewolf, sorry, no beer or coffee for you.

[neoritter]

Chocolate isn't the only thing that canines shouldn't eat, onions, caffeine and alcohol aswell as a whole list of other foods are toxic to them, so if you retain a canines digestive tract and metabolism as a werewolf, sorry, no beer or coffee for you.

LIES!!! I will have my beer and cake, and eat them TOO! :P

We know, we know. But since werewolves bend the laws of physics apparently. Why not bend the laws of biology as well.

[confidental]

Whoot! Werewolves with Booze and sweets.
Now this somehow makes me curious whether lycanthropes can get drunk or not. But they won't able to use a breathalyser right?

[Moon Hunter]

If they can drink, they can get drunk.... but they might have to drink a keg or two before they get a buzz... I just hope they arn't anger drunks, that would end badly.

[neoritter]

If they can drink, they can get drunk.... but they might have to drink a keg or two before they get a buzz... I just hope they arn't anger drunks, that would end badly.

Whats the logic behind the keg or two limit?

[Moon Hunter]

I'm just say a keg or two as an example, for all we know it might have to be ten or twenty... that would be a hell of a bill.

[neoritter]

I'm just say a keg or two as an example, for all we know it might have to be ten or twenty... that would be a hell of a bill.

Or it could be a 12oz beer...

[Moon Hunter]

I don't think so, some werewolves things stick to them in both forms, like stamina, vitality, and such. They'd probably be heavyweights when it comes to booze, granted there may be some lightweights.

[neoritter]

Have you ever gotten drunk? Being a lightweight and heavyweight is more related to how much drinking experience a person has had. There are other factors but experience is a big one. That's something that is outside genetics.

I'm just not seeing where you're getting these conclusions as to how much a werewolf would need to get "drunk."

[Moon Hunter]

I've never been drunk and my conclusions are just examples, no proof, just thought. I mean you could have a werewolf drink a keg and not get drunk and another drink a 12oz beer and get drunk.

[Spike]

Most werewolf fiction has werewolves with a high metabolism so their liver would break down the alcohol a lot faster, meaning you'd have to drink more to achieve the same state of intoxication. Body mass also factors in importantly, the larger someone is, the more it takes for them to get drunk and werewolves would build up muscle faster than a human giving them more overall body mass. Even with a faster metabolism though it shouldn't take too much more to get drunk than a human.

[neoritter]

Most werewolf fiction has werewolves with a high metabolism so their liver would break down the alcohol a lot faster, meaning you'd have to drink more to achieve the same state of intoxication. Body mass also factors in importantly, the larger someone is, the more it takes for them to get drunk and werewolves would build up muscle faster than a human giving them more overall body mass. Even with a faster metabolism though it shouldn't take too much more to get drunk than a human.

Body mass does not affect BAC, body weight does. And that is just simply a correlation between two people with the same factors (body fat, muscle, etc). The alcohol will have to be spread out more to be evenly distributed throughout the blood stream. That said, we've already been over the fact on other discussions way back when that the extra mass out of thin air theory just doesn't really work. A werewolf would have about the same body mass in both forms. Biggest factor would be the metabolisms efficiency. Though there is a factor to that called metabolic tolerance where a seasoned drinker creates more of an enzyme in the liver called alcohol dehydrogenase. A werewolf with no drinking experience would not have as much in their liver. Continuing with the tolerance bit, there is something called functional tolerance where the brain has simply become less sensitive to alcohol, which means a person with less functional tolerance would be affected more than someone with a higher functional tolerance with the same BAC. This supercedes all BAC factoring. So again we're back to individual experience with drinking. Further, I would cite the possible brain alteration between one form and the next as a negative. Primarily because wolves have no experience with alcohol. They do not eat anything that would have the potential to be fermented.



I've never been drunk and my conclusions are just examples, no proof, just thought. I mean you could have a werewolf drink a keg and not get drunk and another drink a 12oz beer and get drunk.

Just to make sure, I'm not trying to criticize you or say your wrong necessarily, just that I was just trying to see the logic that's all :P

[Graywolf]

Well im sure youknow to much of any thing is bad for you....chocolate has a chemical similar to caffine that if a dog eats 100 and 150 milligrams per kilogram of body weight it will be lethal this isnt hard cause dogs way so little so it take about 20 ounces of milk chocolate and like 4 of bakers. For human caffine is toxic in a ration o 150milligrams to a kiliogram which is no problem cuase we way more so a werewolf wouldnt have a problem cause they way a ton.

[Graywolf]

Does anyone second my thoughts? the worse that could happen is a jittery werewolf....

[neoritter]

Well im sure youknow to much of any thing is bad for you....chocolate has a chemical similar to caffine that if a dog eats 100 and 150 milligrams per kilogram of body weight it will be lethal this isnt hard cause dogs way so little so it take about 20 ounces of milk chocolate and like 4 of bakers. For human caffine is toxic in a ration o 150milligrams to a kiliogram which is no problem cuase we way more so a werewolf wouldnt have a problem cause they way a ton.

It isn't just weight. The ratio is 100-200 mg per kg of MASS (there's a difference). Anyways, you're comparing apples with oranges. Caffeine is not theobromine. Further, I think the information you're citing is from this website (http://animals.howstuffworks.com/pets/question348.htm). They mention caffeine simply because it is similar. And note that the effect and danger of caffeine is only similar to dogs in small children. This is because a child can not eliminate caffeine as quickly as an adult can. Not necessarily because they have less mass. But I'm digressing here. Getting back to theobromine here.
"Although theobromine is related to caffeine and exerts similar effects, theobromine does not affect the body through central nervous system stimulation. Instead, it induces muscular relaxation of the smooth muscle tissue."

Theobromine also has three methyl groups instead of two like in caffeine and affects its half-life. Which means it takes longer for it to pass through our systems. Dogs and other animals like cats and rats can not metabolize theobromine as quickly as humans. And thus a smaller amount is needed to affect dogs adversely. The toxicity is not related to mass because rats are able to ingest 1267 mg/kg.

[Graywolf]

Thanks neoritter for correcting me its good to have the right thing down.

[MagicOPromotion]

They keep mentio9ning the "cocoa" not chocolate, so that would mean that dark chocolate is still best (http://www.botmasternet.com/) for you, dark chocolate is even good for those that are on a diet.

All Hail the Chocolate.